help with sizing a quilt

[View My TQS Profile lucyvanpelt]

hi all.
my sister wants to make a quilt for her bed but the pattern she picked is a wall hanging that measures 62 by 62.
she wants to enlarge it to queen size.
we are thinking that she can make 2 of each of the applique blocks which are 7' by 7' finished but i am not sure if that will work.

the boards on the quilt are 7 inches wide by 62 inches long and they need to be lengthened with a motif that is 11 inches long appliqued on. it is mitered also

any thoughts on enlarging that whole quilt or atleast the boarder

thank you

[View My TQS Profile Margo]

Hi Lucy! Long time-no see!

Could you post a photo of the quilt you want to enlarge? Maybe you will get some helpful suggestions.

If you need help posting a photo check out these tips: viewtopic.php?f=80&t=4275

[View My TQS Profile lucyvanpelt]

okay i give the computer is not uploading the scan i have of the book but the quilt is from the book called affairs of the heart by aie rossmann. a formula even to enlarge the borders would be nice otherwise she wants to make a double wedding ring variation called a golden double wedding ring that has a pieced star in the center of each ring and i cant find a pattern for that beyond the fact that this would be her first bed size quilt and i dont want to have her try something so advanced. although this one is also kind of advanced she is good at hand work so i figured the applique would work.
sorry about the pic margo i tried really hard.

[View My TQS Profile Margo]

From what I gather, Lucy, the layout of the quilt you are considering is 49 blocks that finish 7" x7" with a 7" wide mitered border.
Is this correct? If so, the measurements make that lay-out 63" x 63". How large does your sister want the quilt to be?
Do you realize that is will shrink some depending on how much quilting is done? Do you want to allow extra for that?

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[View My TQS Profile lucyvanpelt]

thank you margo for your quick come back.
she would like to have a queen size measuring the standard 90x 106 so i see we need to increase the number of each block that she would do from 2 of each to more.
i think the quilting would be restricted to going around the appliques and maybe a quarter of an inch around the seams for the blocks but not sure. so i would say that she needs to account for that. as i said before she is new so i am sure that the quilting will not be extensive.

i really hope i have not gotten in over my head with helping her with this. i appreciate your advice.

[View My TQS Profile Margo]

Lucy, if you make 195 blocks (that finish 7" x 7") you will get a quilt that measures 91" x 105".

If you alternate them with solid blocks, you can get by with 97 or 98 appliqued blocks, depending on whether you put them in the blank area or the colored area on this lay-out:

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I found the book pictured in Amazon:

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The complexity of the blocks on the cover of this book, and the size of the project you are thinking about might be overwhelming for a beginning quilter.
You might want to talk her into something else to start with.

[View My TQS Profile lucyvanpelt]

i have been trying to talk her into something else her next choice is a double wedding ring which is not much better. i have also tried to talk her into just doing this as a wall hanging first to get the hang of it. i have started this quilt myself so i am not entering this lightly. her main concern is the colors that she wants the black and bright colors which i have told her that you can make any quilt in those colors and it would look stunning but she has a hard time seeing quilts patterns in other colors than what is shown. but we will see
than you for the info i will pass it on to her.

[View My TQS Profile Margo]

Maybe you can help her make ONE block before you buy all the fabric so she will see how labor intensive a king size top would be!

[View My TQS Profile Learning-As-I-Go]

Another thought, and not sure since I'm pretty new myself but is what a friend is helping me with....

I started a Diary Quilt (from Mimi Dietrich's book, Quilters Diary) and thought I want it for my bed (queen size). Didn't even dawn on me as I started, because I am just.that.new. that 25 little 6" x 6" blocks (finished size) would, umm, NOT make a queen size quilt or anywhere near.

So. Talked with my mentor and she suggested putting setting triangles to enlarge each block and setting on point. This keeps the center blocks (the applique blocks or whatever) straight set, turns the full block on point using the setting triangles, and makes them larger. Then add sashing between on top of that, and she'll still need to lengthen the borders and maybe even add more borders (we only took mine out to an 80-something square.....) but might be an option if she doesn't want to do so many more of each square. Mine's only 25 squares, so also not sure if 49 squares would work or wind up too big, or ?? Might work out okay.....

Perhaps someone with more experience will weigh in on this idea and say if it's crazy, feasible, or ??? but just a thought.

[View My TQS Profile Margo]

It's a great idea, Heather!

[View My TQS Profile Learning-As-I-Go]

It's a great idea, Heather!

whew, thanks Margo!

Now I'll leave it to you more experienced quilters to figure out size of setting triangles, layout (rows of 5 and 4 comes out 5 blocks short....taking to 6 and 5 would give some extras I think....my math is coming out wonky right now so I don't trust myself on this....), etc. and whether to use sashing or not to get the size needed.

I just know as a beginner, this would be one way to enlarge without needing to do extra applique/handwork.

[View My TQS Profile ritzy]

Heather--great advice--and from a newbie too! See we all have something to offer.

[View My TQS Profile lucyvanpelt]

all seem like great ideas i will share them with my sister and let you all know what she decides but i am still pushing for a different quilt all together. something simpler.
thank you
eileen

[View My TQS Profile Lorchen]

We are all different, Eileen. I had to start quilting with something really simple and 'find my feet', so to speak. Ten years later I still prefer simple techniques, but can happily cope with more complicated designs and techniques. But I know one quilter whose first piece was a king size bedquilt, hand-pieced from 1.5 inch squares, and another who started with pieced curves (shudder!). Maybe your sister needs to go for something complicated. She'll either swim (and never look back) or sink. Either support your sister the best you can, send her to classes so somebody else can sort her out, or point her to 'quilt university' where she can take an online course. Whatever you decide, enjoy having a sister. I wish I had one.

[View My TQS Profile prccath]

Like your sister, I had to start with patterns that appealed to me, and this didn't necessarily mean easy.. but unlike your sister, I started with cushions, so I could see the outcome quicker, and get the confidence to deal with a big quilt. After 4 years of quilting, I have just started quilting the biggest quilt I have done and that is still just over lap quilt size! Although I am just finishing a queen size quilt top, so I will soon graduate big time.

I used the on point approach to a lap quilt for the lounge room, where I didn't have enough scrap strips to make the quilt as large as I wanted, worked wonderfully. I googled the sizes for the inset triangles and managed to find good instructions.

Your sister has to love it and understand the hours she will have to invest.. if the joy of the process is what she is after, this will be awesome. But if the joy is the finished product, it may become a UFO.. maybe a good get out of jail free plan is in order, ie 4 blocks in, and decide whether it is a quilt or a bed topper! Either way, hopefully she will love the craft and enjoy every minute of it, like we all do.